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Rust Converter and Primer

Coverage, prep, application, topcoats and what metals it is for.

Will the Xion Lab Rust Converter and Primer works in salt water?

It has been used in both saltwater applications as well as brackish water and performed well.

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What is the approximate quantity of rust converter needed to apply on an area of about 11,840 sq. Ft, and how much will it cost?

At 1.0mil dry thickness, you can cover about 1,000 sq feet. Any channels or brakes in the metal tend to collect additional material and affect the coverage. If your surface is perfectly flat and you are using a sprayer, we would recommend approximately 12 gallons plus a 10 to 15% overage, to cover any product lost in transfer, drift, or pooling.

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After applying the rust converter, can metal elements be welded onto the formed layer without removing the layer?

Our product is not a weld through primer, you will need to expose the bare metal to fuse it properly.

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At a constant temperature of about 212 ° F, how many years will the formed layer last?

It is impossible to assess that with limited information. There are many other factors that come into play, but our product has been tested up to 300F.

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What is the maximum permanent (operating) temperature of exposure allowed on the formed layer as a result of using your product?

Our product has been tested up to 300F.

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How long does it take before full drying and/or coating by next application?

Typically 24 to 48 hours depending on relative humidity, temperature, airflow, and sun exposure.

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Do you have experience with your rust converter in industrial furnaces?

This product has been successfully tested for expansion and contraction up to 300F and showed no issues with adhesion. The product might discolor at the higher range, but it did not affect the performance.

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What kind of your product is suitable for industrial furnace applications?

This product has been successfully tested for expansion and contraction up to 300F and showed no issues with adhesion. The product might discolor at the higher range, but it did not affect the performance.

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Can I use it on a roof vent that's aluminum and on galvanized steel?

No, this product is not for use on aluminum or galvanized steel.

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Would you recommend this product for these applications to prevent rusting?

Yes, this product would work to protect almost any ferrous metal product.

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If brushed or rolled can it be worked or are you supposed to avoid a lot of movement once down?

It is best to put it down and leave it alone until it cures.

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Is unused portion best poured off into full smaller containers?

No, we do not recommend transferring leftovers into a smaller container. The instructions and product information label should always be on the container the product is housed.

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What is the life of opened & unopened can?

It is best to use it once it has been opened, but if you cannot. You should try to use the remainder within 3 months. It is imperative that you seal the container well to avoid the product drying out. Any unopened container should be used within 12 months and protected from freezing or superheating while in storage. Once the product has been applied and cured, freezing and heating are no longer an issue. This product is >55% solids, so it will settle over time, make sure to mix or shake it thoroughly before any use.

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Is it OK to thin with water does that mean I can spray and not worry about any minor moisture in air line?

Yes, as long as there are no other contaminants such as oil or silicone. The presence of moisture in the line might affect the appearance of the final dried product as it could yield an inconsistent spray pattern.

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Is this a moisture cured product?

No, it is not, it is a water based product that cures through a typical evaporation process.

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If I choose to top coat with another product, how long can I wait before applying?

The product should be fully cured, before applying another coat. Relative humidity, temperature, airflow, and sun exposure all affect curing; however, we recommend a baseline of 24 to 48 hours to cure completely.

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After applying the base coat of the rust converter, how long can/should I wait to topcoat?

The product should be fully cured, before applying another coat. Relative humidity, temperature, airflow, and sun exposure all affect curing; however, we recommend a baseline of 24 to 48 hours to cure completely.

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Would the 2 in 1 rust converter be usable on a steel hull boat. Will an epoxy primer and paint adhere to the 2 in 1?

Yes, the product has been used in many maritime applications with great success. It shows great adhesion when used with an epoxy primer.

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Your product dries to a red color and I am looking for a final color of black. Is it possible to add a dye to your product to achieve this?

The product has not been tested with added dyes, we do not recommend this. It is preferred that you apply a topcoat in the color of your choosing.

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Will your product adhere to a galvanized steel roof that is rusted?

This product should not be used on soft metals, such as galvanized steel, aluminum, zinc, lead, etc. It is a low pH product that can etch into soft metals. However, if the galvanization is removed and the surface is solely steel, our product will work effectively.

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I live in an area with temperatures below zero. Do I need to be concerned that the area treated with the Rust Converter was exposed to below freezing temperatures?

Absolutely not. After application per instructions, our product expands and contracts with heat and freezing temperatures. This is one of the things that make it so effective, its ability to maintain solid adhesion despite temperature swings. If the product has been in storage or in transit below freezing temperatures you may encounter a change in viscosity that may be simply solved by mixing. An industrial paint mixer is recommended for the 5 gallon pail.

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Will it be ok to pour concrete around the treated rebar?

Concrete is no problem.

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What is the minimum temperature that your rust converter can be applied?

We do not recommend using our rust converter under 50 degrees.

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If I scrape all loose rust and then apply two coats, will it extend the life of the pan?

Our product will protect your pan from further oxidation and thus extending its useful life.

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Can I use Xion Lab Rust Converter & Primer on vehicle parts such as rear end, crossmembers, brackets and other small parts?

Yes, our product is ideal for all mild steel, stamped plates, cast iron, brackets, and other automotive parts.

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Can I use your 2 to 1 rust converter on my new steel parts that are not rusty as a primer?

Yes, you can use this on bare ferrous metal. Many times there is still minor oxidation that this product will attack and protect. Be sure any oils, grease, or protective coatings are stripped from the bare metal before coating.

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Is it more difficult to get smooth paint job?

It should not make it difficult; it also depends on how you apply the rust converter & primer, with a spray gun, brush, or roll.

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If need be, how is this product removed?

Once dried, sanding it will be the best way to remove it.

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How long has this product been on the market?

Our Rust converter has been on the market for over ten years now and is used in many industries such as maritime, automobile, farming.

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Can you apply this product over BONDO?

It is not recommended to use it on anything else than mild steel, stamped plates, cast iron, brackets, and other automotive parts.

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What is the recommended spray tip for an HPLV spray gun? What pressure setting is best?

Make sure that you follow the label directions and thin the product with no more than 15% water by volume and mix thoroughly. When being used in any sprayer, it is imperative that the directions for the sprayer be followed closely. Straining the final 'thinned' mixture as you put it into any sprayer is recommended by any spray gun manufacturer. The typical pressure used for an HVLP gun is 15 to 25psi, depending on the tip and how thin you reduce the product. The size of the strainer should be relative to the spray nozzle. If you have a 1.4 mil nozzle (ideal); for example, this means that any particle larger than 1.4 mil will clog the gun and adversely affect the performance. Disposable paint strainers are available almost anywhere paint is sold, this would be the preferred recommendation for any spray application. There will always be some level of precipitate that exists, so do not be alarmed if the strainer catches some unincorporated solids. Mix the 2 in 1 or shake it in a paint shaker first; then thin the fully mixed paint with up to 15% water. Mix the thinned paint and then pour it through your paint strainer, directly into the reservoir on the paint gun. This will yield the best coverage and performance.

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After letting the XionLab Rust Converter dry, a dull white residue appeared on the surface. Is it normal?

What you are seeing is some residual salts from the phosphating process. This happens occasionally on very rusted and porous surfaces, it is a byproduct of the rust being converted. In most situations, this can be simply wiped off before applying a top coat. If you use a mild detergent to aid in this process, make sure to rinse thoroughly and let it fully dry before applying the top coat. If you are not applying a top coat, this residue will slough off on its own.

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Can I spray a coat of XionLab 2 & 1 and spraying one coat of enamel?

Yes. One coat, our rust converter should be ok.

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Can I use a garden sprayer?

You can, but it will be harder to control the spray pattern and get a completely uniform coat. It might also slow drying time and decrease coverage area due to putting on a heavier coat. Watch that the nozzle does not clog, this is a high solids product that could cause issues with smaller droplet spray patterns.

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My XionLab Rust converter & Primer was stored in my garage and was exposed to freezing temperature, can I still use it?

If the product does not reach a freezing temperature but gets cool, then it is still usable. However, if it does freeze, there is a chance that it will not be able to be dissolved correctly; thus, we suggest getting rid of the item if it freezes. We cannot guarantee that it will function as intended after freezing. If the product is close to freezing but not completely frozen, we suggest bringing it back up to room temperature and blending it in a paint shaker. This is the most effective way of mixing the product in any situation and particularly if it's been cooled down significantly. Oftentimes, your local home improvement or hardware store will be happy to do this as a courtesy while you're making other purchases. If you are unable to blend it properly in a paint shaker, then a drill mounted paint mixer is the next best choice. However, this technique may leave some residue in the corners of the container or on the bottom that is not reincorporated into the solution which is why it is usually not recommended.

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Can I mix it with anything other than water? like paint thinner?

Water is the ONLY solvent that is compatible with the product. It was designed; specifically, as a water based emulsion to eliminate the need for high VOC solvents.

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How long after application of '2 in 1 Rust converter' can it safely withstand rain?

Our 'XionLab 2 in 1 Rust Converter and Primer' can be safely applied even on damp surfaces, so it's capable of withstanding rain. However, you might need to allow extra drying time in such conditions. Once it has fully dried and solidified, you're free to apply your top coat.

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Is there an outside time limit on top coating, can it be delayed weeks for instance?

You should wait at least 48 hours to ensure the 'XionLab 2 in 1 Rust Converter and Primer' is completely dry and cured before applying a top coat. After this period, there's no specific deadline for applying the top coat; it can be delayed for weeks if necessary. However, before application, ensure that the surface is free from any residue or grease to avoid compromising the final result.

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Is it safe to shake in a paint agitator or "paint shaker" machine ?

Yes, technically, you can safely shake the rust converter as long as the lid is securely tightened. However, we always recommend using a paint mixer to ensure thorough mixing, especially at the bottom of the container. Our product is 50% solid, meaning heavy particles will settle at the bottom. It's crucial to mix it well before use.

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Will your 2 in 1 rust converter primer stand up to off road diesel inside a steel tank?

Yes, you may proceed once the substance has cured and bonded with the steel surface. However, please note that some of the pigment might bleed into the fuel, as diesel is a potent solvent. We generally advise applying a top coat with an epoxy layer or a material specifically designed to resist strong solvents like diesel.

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Can I use your 2 in 1 rust converter on my car brake drums, or will the heat from my car brake drums?

We would not recommend this, but please contact the brake drums manufacture, they should be able to help you with this question.

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Drain Opener

Safety, pipe types, dosing and what it clears.

Will this product be safe for shower drain, in a tub with an acrylic tub liner, (Bath Fitter)?

Yes. It is safe for acrylic liner.

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Will this product work on very clogged hard mineral/calcium clogged drains?

No. This product will not work on mineral/calcium clogs. For mineral/calcium clogs you will need a descaling product that is usually acid based. XionLab Safer Drain Opener will work on hair and grease clogs.

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What are the ingredients?

Water, Xanthan Gum, Alcohol Ethoxylate, Modified Magnesium Silicate.

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Do you dilute the XionLab Drain Opener?

No. You do not dilute this product. For severely blocked drains, pour 16oz. (1/2 bottle) into the drain and allow the product to work overnight. Heat up 3 to 5 cups of water in the microwave and pour hot water into the drain. If the problem persists, a second application may be necessary. For mild obstructed drains that have slow running water, pour 16oz. (1/2 bottle) into the drain and allow the product to work for at least 2 hours. Heat up 3 to 5 cups of water in the microwave and pour hot water into the drain. If the problem persists, a second application may be necessary. For regular drain maintenance, pour 16oz. (1/2 bottle) into the drain and allow the product to work for at least 30 minutes, and flush with hot water. If the problem persists, a second application may be necessary.

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Can this be used in an RV?

YES. If used as directed this drain opener will be safe for your RV's holding tank system.

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Will this eat through roots that may be in the main drain?

The product is not registered herbicide so we make no claims that it will eat the roots or kill any vegetation inside of the pipes. It will help to clear the junk caught up in the roots. It will help to clear organic matter that can be obstructing drain flow. It dissolves hair and grease in pipes.

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Can this be used for restaurant drains?

Yes. Usually restaurant drains have grease clogs, so yes, this product works on grease clogs as well. Sometimes restaurant drains are clogged by non organic material, like food, or plastic, and in that case, this product will not work, and we would recommend an acid based drain de clogger. There are cases where food and plastic and other non organic material are being held up in the pipes because of excess grease on the pipes. Using our product cleans the grease from pipes and then the other non organic material flows away.

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Does this get rid of biofilm? Is it just for clogs or does it work for slow drains and odor caused by biofilm?

It does break down the grease that is causing the foul odor, and that is usually what a slow drain and a bad smell come down to. If the smell is coming from somewhere other than grease in the line, write to us at [email protected] and we will tell you straight whether this is the right product for it.

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Will this work on candle wax in a bathtub drain?

Yes. Just follow the directions that are on the bottle label.

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Does this dissolve cloth?

No. It's designed to dissolve grease and hair.

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Why the fish symbol? Is this a religious right wing company?

We are a family owned business. Our family shares Christian values. We do not consider ourselves right, or left winged. We are just grateful that our God has blessed us, and we like to bless others as well. We share our faith because the owner of our business suffered from drug addiction for many years. After trying many different drug addiction treatment options, the only thing that worked for him was a Christian based drug addiction treatment program. Thank God, the owner of our business has been able to stay drug free for more than 10 years now, and his goal is to help others live a drug addiction free life. That is why a % of all our sales go to a non profit organization that helps cure and prevent drug addiction. Drug addiction almost destroyed our family, and since the moment we started living a Jesus centered life, we have been able to live a life full of blessings. Hope you can understand that this is the reason we try to honor our God thru our products.

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How does this compare to Liquid Fire?

Liquid Fire is a sulfuric acid based drain opener. Acid based drain openers work very fast and even digest nonorganic matter like plastics, paper, and even food particles. The downside of using an acid based drain opener is that they are very toxic, they can damage the plumbing pipes, they release toxic foul odor fumes when used, and the user has to take extra precautions when using since it can cause skin, or clothes to burn. Xion Lab's Safer Drain Opener is not an acid based drain opener. Xion Lab uses a proprietary formula that does not work as fast as an acid based formula, but it does work a lot faster than many SAFE drain openers in the market. Xion Lab drain opener is a perfect balance between power and safety. It is odorless, biodegradable, does not produce toxic fumes when used, and is pipe and septic safe. Xion Lab drain opener will NOT work for drains clogged with paper, plastics, or food. If you have a clogged problem caused by hair or grease, then the Xion Lab drain opener will work perfectly. We recommend you leave the Xion Lab drain opener working overnight (6 to 8 hours) and then flush it with hot water.

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I have 4 cats and wonder if hair they left on my sheets could have clogged my drains

There are many ways cat hair can get to your drains, but drain clogs are tricky because you can never be 100% sure what is causing your clog. If the clog is caused by hair or grease, this product is very effective. For severe clogs, pour 16 ounces of this product into the drain and let it work overnight, following the directions on the bottle, and then flush with boiling water. If you are not sure how long to leave it for your drain, write to [email protected] or use the contact form and a person will tell you. If the clog is caused by paper, plastic or anything other than hair, or grease, this product will not work.

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Can it be used in the toilet bowl?

No. Usually toilet clogs are due to paper obstructions. This product will not dissolve the paper. This product is for hair and grease clogs usually found in sinks, or shower drains. For toilets that are clogged, it is better to use an acid based drain opener, a snake, or a plunger.

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Will this work on toothpaste and hair conditioner build up?

Safer Drain Opener is designed to target greases and oils, common components in hair conditioners, and drain slime in general. Toothpaste is usually mixed with these as well so by dissolving the grease it should release the toothpaste and allow it to flush down the drain.

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Does this work on soap scum build up?

Yes. It will work on breaking down soap scum build up in the pipes.

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Is this product safe to use on pvc and can i put it in disposal?

Yes. This product is safe for all types of pipes. And yes, you can put it in the disposal.

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Is this a cruelty free product? Not tested on animals?

Yes. This is a cruelty free product. Non of XIONLAB products are tested on animals.

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Will the product be safe on stainless steel double sink drain? Dishwasher and disposal connect to the drain.?

The product is safe for the stainless double sink. I presume that you are asking about the connection where the dishwasher connects to the actual drain pipe. This connection should not be an issue either. We do not recommend that you use it in dishwashers for the simple fact that we cannot verify the types of seals that are in the appliance and if there might be any incompatibility. For applications like you are describing, we recommend that you use the product as instructed and run your dishwasher through a cycle once the blockage has been cleared. This will help to ensure that any residual product that might have inadvertently gone down the dishwasher drain line, is completely flushed out.

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Will this product work to this to kill sewer flies?

No. This product is not meant to kill sewer flies. It can help break down the grease on the pipes that attract the flies, and clearing that grease out is what brings the flies under control.

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Would this work on a clogged washing machine drain?

Yes. This will work on a clogged washing machine drain. Please leave the product working overnight, following the directions on the bottle, and then flush it with hot water. If you are not sure how long to leave it for your drain, write to [email protected] or use the contact form and a person will tell you.

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Will this work for lint clog in laundry sink drain?

Yes it will. Just follow the instruction on the bottle and it will work perfectly to unclog lint related drain clogs.

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Can i use this to clear the main drain line in a inground pool?

The product can be used on the drain of an inground pool. It will only work if the obstruction is organic in nature. There could be plastic in the line and it would not be clear that. For plastic clogs, we recommend an acid based drain opener or a snake. We would only use it if the pool is currently drained, otherwise, it will be difficult to get it to the source of the drain, since it is such a large body of water and it is typically not a steep incline towards the drain like in a sink. Pool drains are typically PVC, so there should be no issue with the plumbing.

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Could two or more of this be dumped in main drain lateral to city line to open a significant grease clog?

Yes. For Laterals: Pour 1 gallon (that would be 4 bottles of this product) into the drain upstream and as close to the obstruction as possible. For Sewer Mains: Pour 2 to 4 gallons (8 to 16 bottles of this product) into the manhole or drain upstream and as close to the obstruction as possible. For best results, use regularly to keep the sewer main open and free flowing.

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Can I use it in the garbage disposal?

Yes. Usually garbage disposal clogs are caused by food that is stuck in build on grease on the pipes. Our product will soften the grease and allow the food particles to flow. If you have a lot of food particles clogging the pipe, then we recommend an acid based drain opener.

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Will this drain cleaner be safe to use on a drain associated with a Quartz bathroom vanity countertop?

While our product is milder than traditional drain openers, I am sure that extended exposure could have a similar effect on the countertops. If you use our product with Quartz countertops, try to minimize contact with quartz, and if contact is done, please wipe with a wet cloth to remove any product from the quartz surface.

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Is this safe to use with a multi flo wastewater treatment system?

This type of system specifically states not to use caustic drain openers. Because I'm not sure what type of bacteria they utilize in their system, I don't know that we would recommend this product for this application.

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Does it work for sinks clogged by food scraps and food particles?

Our product will not dissolve food particles. For that, you need an acid based drain opener. Most food particles get stuck in the accumulated grease on the pipes. If this is the case, our product will dissolve the grease and the food particles will flow away and your drain will be cleared.

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Does it contain sodium hydroxide?

This product does not contain sodium hydroxide.

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